We need to talk… about Personal Digital Twins
We are walking towards a future of AI-enhanced humanity and Personal Digital Twins are just waiting around the corner.
Our CEO and founder, Emil Jimenez, was interviewed by Eliances Heroes Show’s host David Cogan. In their interesting conversation about uploading your mind and how PTDs are here to change humanity, we also got to learn how a father’s quest for immortality ended up in the creation of Mind Bank Ai.
What’s left to know about the disruptive technology of the future?
Let’s find out:
Eliances Heroes in Business Interview
David: Welcome back to Eliances Heroes In business aligned. To be part of our super community and find out more about Eliances visit www.eliances.com.
That’s right and welcome back! What an incredible morning it’s been. I mean I just had on the CEO of Batteries Plus with over 600 million in revenue. Also we had on the former president of Cabellas so make sure that you go to Eliances.com – that’s E L I A N C E S.com. It is the only place where entrepreneurs align. Well, I gotta tell you, we’re gonna be talking about the future, the future is happening now and our next guest is gonna explain how that’s all possible. So, welcome to the show Emil Jimenez. Emil is the founder of – are you ready for this? – Mind bank.ai. Alright, Emil, we’ve gotta get right into it.
First of all, what in the world does this Mind Bank?
Emil: So we believe that Mind Bank is a Personal Digital Twin platform and we believe that the next personal computer is you. It all started, I think that the best way to describe is to tell the story of how I came up with this idea which is the most, you know, human and the most natural thing. So, about a year and a half ago, my little girl was 4 years old. And she’s playing with her iPad and Siri pops up for the first time. And she asked me “Daddy, what is this?” So I say “Honey, this is Siri. She’s like a friend. Ask her a question. Say Hi Siri and ask her questions.” So, she thinks for a second and then she says, “Hi Siri, do you have a mommy?” and then she continues to ask Siri questions like “Do you have toys? Show me your toys”, “Do you like ice cream?” and she basically has a conversation with Siri for about 10 minutes. Then at the end of 10 minutes, she says “Siri, I love you. You’re my best friend.” And that got me thinking about the relationship and I have a degree in psychology so I started to think my daughter went from having a transactional relationship – “show me your toys” – to an emotional relationship – “I love you”. And a part of me was thinking “Emil, what is her world gonna be like when she’s my age, let’s say 40 years, 35 years from now, what is her world gonna be like and how can I always be part of that world?” So, I tried to figure out how can I upload my mind so that she can always access it.
David: Alright, so what we are talking about, Emil, you’ve created something that you can I mean, upload your mind to?
Emil: Slowly yes. You basically upload your story. So imagine I ask you questions. “How did you meet your wife?”, “Where did you grow up?” All these things and, slowly, you start building a character that is you. Just by answering questions about your life. Imagine someone writing a biography of you that can then become interactive.
David: You’re right I mean the technology is just right evolving faster and faster than ever before. So, right now, it’s done where it’s like a computer, almost like the Siri part asking questions, getting answers.
Emil: It’s like you talking to me right now, asking me questions. The only difference is that these answers are being stored, analyzed for psychographic and cycle-linguistic properties so we give you sentiment analysis, topic analysis and personality assessments. It’s kinda like getting inside your mind a little bit so that you can see who you are. And learn about yourself.
David: And how does it ask you questions to be able to answer, to be able to feed it, how does this thing learn? How does it grow?
Emil: It literally just has about 1000 or so questions on the platform. Like literally, just you know “Tell me about your day”, “Where did you grow up?”, “How did you meet your wife?”. These type of things. And over time it learns. It learns who you are and it starts learning the ideas that over overtime we have enough data that it starts learning how you think.
David: Alright I’m I’m gonna be asking you a lot of questions about this because what you’ve created is truly unique. First of all, you’re watching, listening to me, David Cogan, host of the Eliances Heroes Show. A shoutout to our sponsor too. Hirect – go to be able to chat directly and hire quickly. It is using the first chat-based hiring app for startups, So, make sure that you go, you’ll see the link below for Hirect make sure it’s H I R E C T, or have the whole information and stuff down below. It’s truly incredible. I’m using the app now to myself.
Alright, so Emil, you’re feeding this database, your information, basically have the version of you online so that others can be able to access it, have conversations. But what do you see as the future of it? Do you see it actually evolving to you know the physical part of almost the animatronics or robots?
Emil: The vision I have for it is really more like a spirit. Completely device-agnostic so imagine this, you know, digital twin could be in your car when you have a conversation, could be on your phone, could be on your Alexa at home, on a robot at some point you know. It depends… Quite honestly my vision for this, my measurement of success is when this technology is on another planet. And how we get there is a long journey in that, you know, it’s a longer conversation than this, David, but I’d be happy to have that conversation with you sometime.
David: I mean, and yeah, truly incredible. I mean, this type of Technology. So, how does it, how does the process work? How’s the revenue work? How does somebody go about signing up? Where do they even start?
Emil: So, right now, we’re finalizing the development. The first version one, let’s say. So, right now, we’re taking presales. So, we have an offer that will end this week actually, this Friday, 50% off. We have a visionary plan, which is a lifetime subscription. We’re only selling 5000 of those and we have a monthly recurrent revenue of $4.99 of which you can get it half off for the first year. And then we have a free version for the rest of the world or for anyone who doesn’t want to pay, which is basically just uploading your data. Because the analysis of it is really where the magic happens, right? Learning about yourself. People really are fascinated by you know what they can learn about themselves while using the platform. And we want that, we wanna make that accessible to everyone, which is why we have a free version as well.
David: Alright so Emil have you completed the 1000 questionnaires already?
Emil: No actually. I’ve not.
David: How long does something like that take to complete?
Emil: You know, David, I think we’re never done. Quite honestly I think as human beings the purpose is not to just build a twin and forget about it. It’s really about understanding yourself throughout your life cycle. So, in reality, you shouldn’t ever be done. They should, the questions are always coming up and the beauty of it is that others can ask your digital twin questions which you can answer. So, your brother, your sister might know something that’s not on the platform, right? Obviously, they know special things about you. Which would add value to your digital twin and also add value to that family heritage and that family lineage and the family wisdom really. So the idea is that you’re never done, you learn about yourself throughout your life. It’s the best way to describe it: you go to the gym for a six-pack, right? And you wanna get that beach bod, but what keeps you coming back is those small gains, that feeling of “I’m getting stronger, I’m getting better” and that never ends. Right?
David: No, absolutely and again, we’re talking with Emil Jimenez. You could reach him at Mind Bank.ai. And make sure you go to our sponsor Hirect.US that’s H I R E C T dot US. It allows you to be able to interview candidates anytime, anywhere. It’s excellent for startups to be able to instantly connect with potential employees and employers. People that are looking for jobs, make sure you go there: Hirect.US.
So, Emil, again these things that you’ve created and all that it’s almost hard for somebody who hasn’t used your system yet to be able to do it to comprehend though how. I like how you kind of related it almost to write this to Siri, where instead of asking Siri, they’re getting information on you. How many times do we wish that we had that opportunity to ask relatives that are no longer around? Friends that are no longer around? I think you’re right, it could create an emotional healing process too.
Emil: Yeah, there there is that side of the emotional healing process, the family heritage and family lineage. But the true strength is embracing AI for ourselves and what we call AI-enhanced humanity. How can I become an API? How can I become digitized and become, you know, and take advantage of all of the technologies that are available to make me a better human being and that’s really what we’re trying to do.
David: And Emil, who do you want to connect with that was part of your life that’s no longer here that you wish that they had created, you wish that this was created at that time and their information was on it.
Emil: So, it’s a funny story. It’s good that you ask that. I was curious and I did a genealogy study, right? And my mother said “Oh, you know, you’re great, great grandfather came in the 1850s or something like that. He was a soldier” and she gave me a little story. I was like, okay, but then I actually paid someone to do some research and really dig deep, right? And the finding was that we’ve been in this, my family’s from a small region in the Dominican Republic, and they’ve been from the same village for over 400 years. And my mother never knew that. You know this person went through birth certificates to marriage certificates, death certificates, went back 400 years. I would love to have asked that person, how do you end up on this island in the middle of nowhere, you know? That would be amazing.
David: And I think that this is something too for all ages because we never know when our time is gonna happen.
Emil: And if you have kids you want them to remember you. You know, your grandkids,… Because really I think I built this for my daughter but a part of me thinks that really my great-grandkids are the ones who are gonna really wanna see this. Because I don’t know. They won’t know me at all. Right? My daughter knows me, maybe my grandkids as well but you know, the other people and it continues. And then you have this lineage, your family history and values and trauma maybe even right like you know things that you carry you don’t even know. So, yeah, that’s one healing process really. But I think there’s much more to that. I really think it’s AI-enhanced humanity. How can I, Emil, be a better person using this platform?
David: And it will continue to evolve, with technology, getting faster and faster. The thing is and I think it’s even with the education I see this, I mean it would be amazing if this would develop George Washington, Abraham Lincoln and that you can have a conversation with one of them as if it’s happening in real-time, right now, live.
Emil: Yeah, imagine all these great minds that are around today. You know, we have so much data actually on them. Because they write books and they write this and that. So, we could put something together, right? But what I see even more strongly is “Okay how can we use this digital twin technology, the person digital twin, to reduce the education gap that exists across the world?. To reduce the financial gap that exists across the world?” Because a lot of times what it is, it’s access to information. Not necessarily access to education that’s the problem. Right? So that’s something that we wanna tackle as well down the line. It’s a different problem, different time, but it’s you know, I’ve got a 50-60 year plan ahead of me.
David: I love it. Truly amazing. We actually have the founder, I interviewed the founder of Siri on here. I probably should connect you with him. You’ll never know where that leads.
Emil: Well, yeah. We actually have one of the people who developed Siri on the advisory board. He was a leader programming engineer. So, they might know each other.
David: Probably, in fact, let’s talk about that. How did you put together a team? How did you know who to add to your team and put together a team to be able to make this actually? Because a lot of people come up with ideas but you brought this to fruition.
Emil: Yeah, so I got this idea on January 17 2020. I didn’t incorporate it until August. So, for 8 months, I was just knocking on doors, sending emails, talking to whoever would bother, you know, talking to me and you’d be surprised when you know you send an email and then the email it’s quite interesting, right? “I’ve got this idea. I’d like to pick your brain. This is what the idea’s about” and pretty much I got probably got like a 75% response rate. Pretty good and then people just, you know, willing to give me 10 minutes of their time to listen to this crazy idea and then it’s one of those where I just ask a simple question. Who else should I talk to? And they recommend another person. “You gotta talk to David” “You gotta talk to this woman” and slowly you start putting the pieces together and I think the advantage is you have to let ideas marinate too. I made the mistakes before where I like had an idea and then built the website and did it and then when you realize it probably we didn’t really think that through.
David: And you’ve already won a number of awards and stuff. The IESC global leadership scholarship, Better chance high school scholarship, Who’s who in America college students? I mean, the list just goes on and on and on. Have those awards helped to get more of the word out about what you’re doing?
Emil: Those awards specifically are quite old but the awards we won recently yes, we won a EU Tech form investor form so we won third place there. And that put us in front of a lot of very very interesting people. Let me put it this way, I can’t name my names but it’s kind of like it’s one of those family names that you would know. And we won. We were also Deep tech for good startups. They said they actually naturally gravitate to people. So I give you an example our head of systems architecture and cyber security just came to me and he’s like: he read an article on us and he’s like “Hey man I always wanted to do this. It’s such a great idea. I love the positioning. I wanna work with you. Don’t worry about money.” And I know and we had no money. So, I was like, I like you. Done. Right. Okay. But it’s one of those like if you’re willing to sweat it with us, you’re willing to sacrifice and it’s not about the money right now. Then, you know, you have the doors are open, right? This is the time to do that and I’ve built a team of geniuses really, you know, our Chief information officer is ex-CEO of Health and Human Services, gentleman from Siri, Microsoft Board members, is like you know the list goes on and on. It’s just quite amazing actually.
David: Well, again, you know, what you’re doing is truly amazing. You know, there’s a poster on my daughter’s door that reminds me of this interview and it says the future is now because what you’ve created Is taking place in this is futuristic of what you’re doing now I can only imagine how that’s going to continue to evolve…
Emil: The scary part, David, is how fast it’s going. When I started, they said there would be 5 to 10 years to the peak. This year, they reduced it from two to five. So, pretty much half, you know. Half the time it’s gonna reach its peak so it’s going fast. I can tell you that from our side it’s going lighting fast.
David: Well, truly incredible. You are preserving the future. You’re making incredible enhancements. Emil Jimenez, you can contact him at Mind Bank.ai. Make sure you go to Mindbank.AI. This has been David Cogan with the Eliances Heroes. Because we got a lot more going on. Make sure you check out Eliances.com. Yes.com. Where Eliances Entrepreneurs Align.
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